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After several years of not being successful in getting clear and unambiguous answers about how GP2020 (GPU) will affect my property it seems that if hundreds of concerned landowners call, write, email, and show up at meetings the importance on clarifying things and supplying statements that commit the DPLU gets elevated.

Prior to the meeting on Nov. 6th my emails were not even replied to now I (we) get quick and thorough explanations.

Please see my usual legal IanaL (I am not a Lawyer) disclaimer at the bottom. Continue reading

Report: DPLU Hearing Nov 6

Two Steps Forward One Step Back   —     —     —

As advertised the meeting was the General Plan Staff presenting to the commissioners  and “interested parties” and the community groups presenting afterward.  I will fill in details later.

Of interest is what happens in the hallway.  (isn’t it always that way?)

Maps were posted along the hallway (different looking than any that I have seen before) and there were at times people around to answer questions.  (No badges or identification that these folks were anything other than general public. )  The first time I stopped  a group was talking with Mr. S  from zoning.  Mr. S was explaining that they had no plans to change the zoning in Ocotillo Wells. I was puzzled and mentioned that I was confused by conflicting information from building, zoning, and County Supervisors that I have contacted.  Nope Mr. S was clear that they had no plans to change the zoning out there (moving his hand over Ocotillo Wells.)

Ok.

After the break I meet another person at the map answering questions for a concerned woman.  This new person explains that the areas in cross hatch on Ocotillo Wells is what is going to be changed and the solid areas are fixed.  Getting clarification on this she says that the areas in cross hatch are what is changed from one of the four maps being considered the area that is solid is the same on all maps being considered.

OH! Continue reading

GP2020 PUBLIC comment ended Nov. 20 2009

To speak email: gpupdate.DPLU@sdcounty.ca.gov  with your name, email address, phone number, and community (Ocotillo Wells) for a speaking time now.

The enviro nuts are about to get their way and zone Ocotillo Wells out of existence with 40 acre and 160 acre minimums for building! They are doing this as quietly as possible.  Get pissed, go to the meeting, and tell them NO WAY!

The plan change is inevitable.  The density zoning is still up for discussion for a small window of time. Continue reading

Criminally Stupid Water rule!

If you thought it was just about zoning density think again.  There is another back door property grabbing effort underway in the proposed GP2020 plan.  The proposed plan will require each parcel to be able to supply all of it’s water needs through rainfall on the parcel itself as a measure of the ability of the aquifer to be replenished.  This is total nonsense from a hydrology and watershed / Aquifer management perspective.  (AND THEY KNOW IT!) All aquifers are replenished by the watershed that feeds them not just the parcels above them.  Every hydrologist KNOWS THIS! If this is not a bald face exposure of the true intention of the DPLU I do not know what is.

The Ocotillo Lower Felipe Watershed contains 322,709 ACRES!  With a average rainfall of 3.6 inches that comes to 96,812 acrefeet of water.  The only demand on the aquifer fed by this is Ocotillo Wells.

Ocotillo Lower Felipe Watershed 2

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Caught in government’s vise: making a “willing seller”

By Henry Lamb
web posted May 23, 2005

For years, Jesse James Hardy tried valiantly to avoid the day when the State of Florida would take his 160-acre “patch of heaven,” 30 miles east of Naples. He spent hundreds of thousands of dollars in engineering studies and legal fees, trying to convince the state that his land was not necessary to the Everglades Restoration Project. The state disagreed.

The court ordered one final mediation session between Jesse and the State to see if Jesse would become a “willing seller,” rather than another victim of eminent domain. The courts had already taken the land of nearly 17,000 other landowners. Jesse was the last hold-out in a 55,000 acre parcel which lies 50 miles from the Everglades.

Jesse was accompanied by two attorneys, one of whom had filed an extensive lawsuit on Jesse’s behalf, alleging a variety of illegal actions on the part of state and federal agencies. The other attorney was an eminent domain specialist.

“We can win this, Jesse, if you can just hang on,” one attorney advised. Of course, there was no guarantee that Jesse would win, and the case, filed in federal court, could take years. Jesse’s only income, besides a small disability check he receives from the military, was the sale of dirt from the excavation of what he planned to be four, 20-acre fishing lakes he was building on his property.

Collier County approved the four-lake plan three years ago, but after the state declared it wanted the land, the state asked the county to withdraw the permit. The county complied, and refused to renew Jesse’s permit, leaving him with no source of income, or any hope of completing his dream.

There was no way Jesse could “hang on” for the years it would take for a final decision on his lawsuit.

The state had offered Jesse as much as $27,500 per acre for his land. But when Jesse looked around the area for comparable land, prices ranged from $50,000 to $100,000 per acre. He could not replace his land for the price the state offered.

The other attorney pointed out to Jesse, that there was no doubt that the court would take the land. The only question was the amount of “just compensation” the court would pay, and that decision would be made by a jury, not of Jesse’s peers, but jurors selected from affluent retirees.

Hardy at one of his ponds
Hardy at one of his ponds

For years, local media have portrayed Jesse as a stubborn hermit, living in a shack in a wilderness, who in blocking the all-important Everglades Restoration Project. A jury would not likely be sympathetic with Jesse’s values.

The marathon negotiating session lasted until 10:30 pm, when Jesse finally became a “willing seller:” he agreed to accept $4.95 million, about $31,000 per acre. He has to vacate the property by December 1.

The money was not paid to Jesse, but to the court, in order to ensure that all outstanding claims against Jesse would be paid. Claims are being filed that Jesse says he does not owe. The money is tied up, and the judge has scheduled a hearing for June 26. In the meantime, Jesse has no resources to arrange for another place to live. He doesn’t even know how much will be left, or when it will be available.

Prior to the settlement, the county would not allow Jesse to sell the dirt from his excavations after his permit expired last year. Now, however, by arrangement with the state, the county is allowing a contractor to haul away the dirt.

Jesse is angry. He watched the county, state, and federal governments conspire to deprive him of his home and his dreams for the future. The price at which he became a “willing seller,” is well below replacement costs, but above the amount he would likely have gotten from a jury or a court decree.

Jesse is just another victim of government’s relentless quest to acquire private property. There are similar cases in progress in virtually every state, which do not get the publicity Jesse has generated. Once government gets private property in its cross-hairs, few people have the money, the time, or the expertise to mount a defense. The entire saga of Jesse’s years-long battle is recorded at his web site.

Henry Lamb is the executive vice president of the Environmental Conservation Organization (ECO), and chairman of Sovereignty International.

Other related stories: (open in a new window)

Jesse’s last strike by Henry Lamb (November 1, 2004)
All across the United States the rights of landowners are being sacrificed to the whims of environmentalists. Henry Lamb reports on one of those victims, Jesse Hardy of Florida

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GP2020 Claims Stakeholders Input is Over

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Did they contact you?  Did they tell you that they want to make your land useless?  Do you think that you are a stakeholder in this process?  What happens after they vote next Fall?  Will they tell you then what they did and claim that you had years to get involved?  Are you going to sit by and let them do this?  ….  Oh sure the plan will not immediately change the zoning.  But very soon after the plan is approved the zoning is required to come in line with the new plan.

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